MAJOR EXPOSURE OF ALLEGED SEXUAL ABUSES BY SATHYA SAI BABA
A documented overview of the history and extent of the alleged sexual abuses by Sathya Sai Baba and the questions they raiseWORLD-WIDE EXPOSURE OF SEXUAL ABUSE AND SATHYA SAI BABA, THE 'SECRET SWAMI'
Part 2 - Smoke Not Without Fire - Claims and Evidence of Serious Molestations
6 The 'oiling' of genitals of young males by Sathya Sai Baba
7 Major abuse testimonies world-wide by young men and their relatives
8 More "Good Chances" for Sex with the Avatar
The Genital 'oiling' of young males by Sathya Sai Baba: Many Western devotees believe that Sathya Sai needs to rub naked genitals vigorously and voluptuously to kiss young men and boys so as to raise their kundalini (i.e 'dormant sexual-spiritual energies')! This is a travesty of so-called 'kundalini yoga', which has long been widely practiced in India and requires absolutely no 'massaging' of genitalia or kissing. Meanwhile devotees proudly claim and believe that Sathya Sai Baba never touches females. Others known to me who are thought to be 'very important persons' in Sai circles (only) still privately defend Sathya Sai Baba's sexual abuse as 'healing' or- more ridiculously - as the repayment/working off of 'terrible past karma', which they see as a great boon for his victims to get! These views, intended to exonerate Sathya Sai Baba from any blame as a sexual molester and pederast, have been published on the internet by someone calling himself Ram Das Awle and are circulated widely among those very puzzled among the blindly faithful who are nonetheless aware that the sexual allegations have real substance. The belief that whatever Sathya Sai Baba does to a person is for his own good, is held by many followers and expressed openly by some! This would include the anal rape of underage boys, as reported by Dr. Naresh Bhatia who described carrying out a medical examination of a young Sai student who he said he found had been raped by Sathya Sai Baba. Sai followers therefore view the great mass of mankind to be misguided that this is a bad thing, since they are defending as 'divine' a low form of depravity.
The fantasies engendered by Sathya Sai Baba's claims easily turn black into white. Both values and facts become gradually more and more distorted by devotees who have got caught up in Sathya Sai Baba's catch-22, pick-and-choose menu of teachings by his powerful manipulations of their desires and dreams, his flattery, primadonna behaviour, great chutzpa, and his all-embracing megalomaniacal claims and pretensions etc.
The many and detailed descriptions by former male devotees of Sathya Sai Baba's various homosexual advances and behaviour towards them, the series of good-looking young European men who have gone through the Sathya Sai Baba 'centre of attention' experience are almost self-explanatory. I say only 'almost' because a number of defendants of Sathya Sai Baba in the Sathya Sai Organization are conducting a damage-limitation misinformation campaign, not least because some of the leaders have admitted in public that they know that Sathya Sai Baba 'anoints' young men's genitals in secret and afterwards warns them to tell no one about it. One leader - Thorbjørn Meyer - has carefully described this unasked for genital manipulation an "age old Indian oil ceremony", without being able to produce even a fragment of documentation for this from Indian scripture or reliable historical sources. Even if he had, it would surely just amount to a primitive and perverted superstition. Another word for 'anoints' could well be 'interferes physically with' or 'sexually molests' young men's genitals. There are yet other verbal alternatives. Such an act is more likely a testing of sexual availability or a prelude to seduction, such as are described in sexual psychopathological works. As soon as we confront these matters from the viewpoint of a propaganda-free, normally non-prejudiced standpoint, they take on a fairly easily understood character.
Major abuse testimonies world-wide by young men and their relatives: Sharon Purcell was a devotee for 32 years and together with Elsie and Walter Cowan, Fritz and Victoria Ellis and her then husband, Gary, started the first official Southern California Center in the hilltop home of Elsie and Walter in the Cowan Heights section of Tustin , California. Sharon and Gary Purcell were told by Sathya Sai Baba to name their child Sathya, which they did. In 1993 Sathya Purcell went to
Indiawith Hal Honig's group of boys. One week later, Sharon followed her son to Indiawith her friend, Jill, where they had an interview with Sathya Sai Baba. Later, Sharon reported to others, including a long term office-bearer, Glen Meloy, that Sathya Sai Baba had molested 3 of Sathya's friends in private interviews which caused him to tell her that he no longer believed in Sai Baba. One of the boys in his group, whose genitals were oiled by Sai Baba, was Josh Kintz, son of Mahri and Bruce Kintz, long term members of the former Cherry Valley , California Center under the leadership of the late Joy Thomas and now currently active members of the Hemet , California Center. A third boy was also molested in this way. Sharon Purcell also knew Mark Roche well, who has courageously and wholly convincingly testified on the BBC documentary 'Secret Swami' to Sai Baba having tried to gratify his desire for oral sex with him in 1976 when Mark was a young man and believed him to be the God Avatar, as all the others in the group did, including Dr. J. Hislop and Mr. & Mrs. Cowan. Since then I resumed contact with Mark Roche, who my wife and I knew very well during a long stay near Bangalore and Kodiakanal in 1994, and there can be no doubt whatever to my mind that he is telling the truth, not least for the sake of helping those those who are defenseless victims of Sai Baba's sexual proclivities.
Sharon , a founder member of the Sai Organisation in California , knew some of those had been forced into sex by Sai Baba and, discovering this 'incredible' fact, left him and his organisation well before the internet revelations took place and she contributed to them via Glen Meloy. Would a person who had devoted her time, energy and become so deeply involved take such a step for no reason? She is just one example of over 100 unselfish persons working for the good of all as other ex-office-bearers in the Sai Organisation who have done the same. Her son, Sathya 'Satch' Purcell later gave a detailed account of his experiences in six parts, beginning at this link.
The results of their inquiries in various countries were first seen on BBC Channel Two on June 17th, 2004 . The only direct statement that Sathya Sai Baba made was "Swami is pure"! and that was a private assurance to the top leader of the international Sai movement, Dr. M. Goldstein, who has gone on record reporting it. He accepted it at face value without any further questions, explanations or investigations. Thereafter he returned unopened all mail from all former leaders in the US Organisation who tried to contact him making complaints of sexual abuse. In the BBC documentary 'Secret Swami' Goldstein tells that Sai Baba told him that if he wanted to fight "gutter people", he would have to go into the gutter, so he should forget it. Goldstein claimed that he is a knower of human nature and tried to intimidate the young lady interviewer by vehement finger-shaking and a forceful attitude. He said that he is a doctor: "I am a consummate professional", and claimed he can tell infallibly by looking at young men whether they have been sexually abused! Viewers judged that he came across as an authoritarian ego-inflated 'doctor from hell' with raw conceit and aggression seldom seen even on TV (for it was filmed with a hidden camera so he would show his true nature). He is the Number One rich and powerful mover and shaker of the Sai Organisation, which also speaks volumes about its despotic internal nature.
An entirely undisputed and shockingly clear account of major sexual abuse by Sai Baba was made on film, firstly on 'Seduced by Sai Baba' (Denmark 2002) and secondly in 'Secret Swami' by the BBC (June 2004). The young man, who was underage at the time, is Alaya Rahm, son of Al Rahm, who provides support and his side of the episode. He and his family tell most convincingly of his ordeals at the threatening hands of Sai Baba. The despicable actions of Goldstein are documented beyond all doubt on screen. This documentary amounts to a transparently damning indictment of Sathya Sai Baba as a fraud, a suspected murder accomplice and a homosexual abuser. Their experiences and findings were fully in accord with those of the Danish documentary of 2002.
This footage shows the deceitful and conceited totalitarian and fanatical nature of Dr. Michael Goldstein, which is shared by many leaders in the Sai Organisation. The following is an excerpt from the Danish documentary:
In 1989 when I was 15 years old I went to
Indiafor three weeks. And on that trip I had four interviews. And in the third interview he actually asked me to untie my pants. And he forcibly pulled my pants down and with his bare hand grabbed my groin and rubbed some oil on the side of my scrotum. And I went again on the following year, and on that trip when I was 16 years old, SB called me again for a private interview. At that point I was even actually more uncomfortable because it seemed like this had already taken place, there is no reason why it needed to take place again.
...he waved his hand and turned it over and showed me some oil. And he started to rub it on my testicles and started kissing me. And as he was kissing me, he started kissing me deeply, you know. And I started tensing up and, you know, not understanding what was happening. But it seemed to me as if SB was trying to make my penis erect.
"One time he had his robe almost completely off and he tried to have anal sex with me, because he came from behind me and started climbing up on top of me, you know, and being that I'm so much taller than him, in order to keep prevent it from happening, I just stood straight up and didn't allow him to do anything, you know, and I kind of kept pushing him away and keep him there until ??... I know, I want to talk to you, I want to be with you and I love you. He said, "You don't love me? You don't love me?" And I would say, "No, I love you, but I just don't want to have sexual relations with you."
... But every time we would go back into the personal room, his wants got to be very intimate. And he was constantly having me take out my penis and he would hold it, sometimes put it in his mouth and look at me, and then ask me to do the same thing or push my head down and lift his robe up. And I was gagging and almost about to vomit. And, you know, that was probably the most mentally break down type of thing I've ever done in my life, because if I didn't feel like at that time, like my life or my family's happiness or … was depending on it, I wouldn't have done it. But my mentality at that time … I felt like it was a life or almost death situation. You know, this was God in human form, but that was my mental program - this is God in human form. How could I deny him what he was trying to make me do? There must be some deeper reason or deeper meaning that what I see."
What really helped me was when I had some conversations with some other people who had had similar experiences. Because I felt, that if they had had experiences as intense, or close to as intense as mine, I could talk to them about it more openly than I could talk to my dad. So we had talked about it, and all the people that I had talked about it were equally confused about it as I was. However, also equally brainwashed and allowing it to continue to take place. So I would say that finally I decided that I was not going to put myself into that position again, because life without SB was going to be a better life." See full transcript of the whole interview.
Timothy Conway Ph.D. - Follower for 22 years, President of the Sathya Sai Baba Center of San Francisco from 1982-4 wrote and posted the following:
"We now have trustworthy reports from over two dozen credible eye-witnesses (and sworn affidavits from many of them) indicating that probably hundreds of young men and boys have been molested (far beyond "touching the perineum") and/or forced to perform oral sex and masturbation on Baba over the last 30 years or more. Baba has masturbated them and sometimes performed oral sex on them, sometimes to the point of ejaculation.
Baba has threatened to deny interviews to many of the boys' parents if the boys resist his sexual predatory behavior. He has paid or bribed most of these male youth for sexual favors and for their silence with money, rings, watches, etc.-- up to $10,000 for one boy (an American youth well known to several former members of our Santa Barbara Sai Center). Baba has also evidently gotten angry at and berated those male youth who try to resist his molestations or who fail to become aroused when Baba is molesting them. He verbally manipulates and coerces them to engage in sex with him.
It's clear that Baba is not "detachedly" "raising the kundalini" or "healing old sexual karma" of these male youth. (If this were the true reason, why is he denying young women and girls, older men and non-preferred younger men this "healing touch"?) Rather, Baba appears to be caught up in terrible lust and attachment: eyewitnesses describe him making "moaning" and "gurgling" sounds, thrusting his pelvis and erect organ toward the boys and young men, grabbing them when they try to move away, trying to persuade them how "lucky" they are to be having this "great opportunity." See full letter
Many very serious allegations of sexual misconduct - including extreme sorts - have been made openly and in public by a number of named persons. There are over score of detailed accounts of molestations to be found on the web which are credible and have mostly been checked by those ex-devotees who, like myself, have investigated this issue as fully as we could for years. In the following one reads short excerpts of key statements from web postings on several sites.
Several more accounts from around the world alleging sexual molestations by Sai Baba have - in addition to some of those detailed here - been formally signed as depositions or affidavits and are securely in the keeping of a professional person who is willing to be contacted ( such as via this website) for further validation by formal authorities and international bodies, lawyers and serious media persons.
Afshin Khorramshahgol (Iranian) - I travelled to India three times, from 1991 to 1993. On my first visit to IndiaI was already a devotee of Sai Baba and believed he was God.
I had a total of seven private interviews in the first two trips. In the first private interview Sai Baba asked me to undo my pants and drop my underwear.
Since I believed he was God I did as he asked. He had already ‘materialised’ oil and he applied it in the area between my penis and anus. In every private interview after the ‘initiation’ private interview, Sai Baba asked me to drop my pants and underwear, and he would rub my penis. Once he was rubbing it so hard it was obvious to me that he wanted me to get an erection. I was busy talking to him about my problems, the problems of my country Iran , and my family’s problems, and I was asking him for his blessing for all of them.
I was not interested in sex or anything, especially with a guy, and so my penis did not grow, now matter how hard Sai Baba tried. Finally, he gave up and threw my penis up and turned away with a very angry face and mumbled something. When he turned back to me, he told me to put my pants on again and the private interview was over.
You may ask why I didn’t stop Sai Baba doing what he was doing if it was so obvious to me that he wanted me to get an erection. Due to my being brainwashed... (etc.) See posting of the document.
Jens Sethi (German) - On 20th January 1996 I got the second interview. Already days before, he had established a strange eye-contact with me indicating the coming interview. My wife and I went to the interview and he acted very disappointed at seeing me together with my wife. He took me alone into the interview room and said “She is diseased and much older than you. Please separate from her”. I was really shocked and replied “She is attached to me”.
I asked him to give her some spiritual instruction, which he readily agreed to do, but he had something else on his mind.
Without asking permission he started kissing me on my lips for some time, and later asked me to open my trousers and ‘materialised’ some oil which he rubbed on the skin above my genitals. I felt very bad about all of this, but accepted, as I fully trusted Sai Baba.
Then he took my wife into the private interview room alone, and told her “Either you separate from the boy or I throw you out of Puttaparthi!”. He appeared wild and furious (my wife told me afterwards) and she shivered all over. When she reappeared in a very short time, looking red faced and very scared, nobody dared ask her what happened in there.
He saw me again some days later in darshan and asked whether I had separated or not. I said “Not yet”. He turned away and shouted so all people could hear “Bad, Bad boy!!!” He was so aggressive and seemed to radiate such an aura of evil that I was really shocked. We immediately left and went to north India for some pilgrimage.
When Jens and his wife returned to try to clear up the matter with Sai baba somehow, his passport was confiscated by a Mr. Reddu of the ashram authority:
On 30th October, late in the evening, two people whom I know and an unknown person came to our unit and one of them warned me that my life was in danger and I should leave immediately.
My wife and I left very early next morning, for Delhi . At Dharmmavaram rail station the police were searching for us, but we entered the train at Anantapur. There is a police station near the platform which we had to pass to enter the train, and the very moment I saw that I told my wife to go into the train separately. My wife heard a group of policemen talking about searching for somebody and caught the words ‘passport, Delhi and telegram’. We were in serious danger but fortunately I was dressed like an Indian, and escaped identification.
So we escaped and reached Delhi , and went immediately to the German Embassy. See posting of the full document with scan of the article in 'Bild', 21st August, 2000 p.3.
Jed Geyerhahn - US citizen. (see brief video clip from the film Seduced with Jed and also Alaya Rahm - 2mbs): I have talked with students at Sathya Sai Baba's school and they have had sexual relationships with Sai Baba. And it's really common knowledge that several students stay with Sai Baba all night on an ongoing basis. And of course nobody talks about what takes place with these students with Sai Baba, but from the students I've talked to (it's) clear that there are sexual relationships taking place. And in fact one student I talked to directly was a person that was staying with Sai Baba. And from the conversation it was clear that it was very difficult for him to come forward with this information, because he'd be rejected by his family and by his culture and by his people, unlike American students who have the support of their culture and society and family. They come forward and talk about the fact that they have been mistreated by Sai Baba.
A 15-year old boy, Neptune Chapotin, wrote a diary (facsimile of the letter can be seen here)
1st interview: "Oil," he said. "Open." (He started lifting my shirt; I lifted it up, thinking he wanted to rub it on my navel. Then, with his left hand, [his right was full of oil.] he motioned downwards with his fingers. I understood. I untied my pants. He lifted my penis, put his fingers at the base of it, and started rubbing the oil into me. It didn't hurt, but he was making a motion as if he was pinching me there repeatedly with his fingers. He stopped, and waved his hand again. I guess he made some more oil. He resumed rubbing. With his other hand, he drew me close. He rubbed some more, and drew me closer. I could hear him murmuring some things, so I turned my ear towards him so I could catch what he was saying. He again pulled me tighter towards him this time by the waist, until my crotch was right by the side of his leg, and our chests were almost touching. I had my chin on his right shoulder both arms around him, his hair touching the side of my face, the front of my pants down. It was so bizarre. I could now feel him pulling the base of my penis back and forth. It felt kind of good. He finally let me go, and I pulled my pants up.) (He looked at me and said: ) "Don't tell anyone. Don't tell Mother.
2nd interview: He took Papa into the private room for a minute or so, then called me. Papa left. As soon as we got inside, he pulled me close, gave me a big hug, and started untying my pants. He dropped them to the ground, then pulled my underwear below my butt. He grabbed my penis, and while hugging me again, started masturbating the base of it. He kept repeating "Purification. Purification." I felt his other fingers grip around my crack and pull me closer, uptight. I held him tight in return. He turned his right cheek to me, I kissed it, with his prompting. He turned his mouth towards me, I gave him my cheek. He turned my head and kissed me on the mouth for a long time. When h stopped, I started to pull up my pants. He made sure my shirt didn't get stuck in the knot, and straightened me out. He kept telling me: "This is good chance; good chance; look, there are so many people outside. They all want to be here. It's your good luck." "Sometimes you are wasting money. Sometimes mother doesn't give. There's no income." (He waved his hand and out popped six 500 rupee bills. He counted them [Rs. 3000]) "For food. Spend it. keep it inside. Inside! (I put it in my wallet.) Don't tell anyone!" even Mother? "Mother you can tell." And father? "not father."
Keith Ord (British) - His written testimony is about his English friend Michael who had between 10 and 15 interviews with Sai Baba, but was not his usual self and was holding things back, until eventually, wrote Keith...
Michael said, "that every day he attended darshan, Baba called him for an interview. And that after a while, he just refused to go."
Keith "Don't you realise that people follow Baba round for ten years without ever being invited for one interview?" His reply turned me to stone : "Because he wanted to have sex with me. Every interview I had with him was the same. All he wants is sex." There was a kind of stunned silence in the room for a long time; I was trying to digest what I had heard, wondering what it could mean...
Of his own experiences in the ashram, Keith wrote that he talked with several other young men: "One was an English boy named Kestrel Boyle and the other an Australian called Edward --- I can't remember his surname because he was born of Bangladesh parents in Australia and 4 was a rather difficult name. I didn't really know what to tell them, or even if I should tell them, so instead asked them if Baba had ever done strange things to them in their private interviews. Edward replied immediately, and in such matter of fact tones that it surprised me into silence. He said "What, you mean playing with your dick? Oh don't worry about that, he's done that to me loads of times. It doesn't mean anything bad - I actually like it, and think it's good for me.' Kestrel basically said the same kind of thing, so I didn't dare say any more, but I wondered what else Baba had done with them."
Conclusion: January 1990 - 'Islington Gazette' carried the coroner's report on Michael's death, but didn't find anything suspicious - listing it simply as a suicide. See posting of the full document.
A friend of Keith Ord at the time was Bas Engelbarts, who remained a follower for years afterwards, having not fully taken in the seriousness of th abuses that Keith reported. Bas Engelbarts has delivered another damning testimony about Sathya Sai Baba in which he writes about an interview he attended: "entered, made a left turn to go and sit against the wall, away from his chair. He suddenly turned around and said “No, no, you come”. He took me by the hand as he walked towards his chair. He held my hand while sitting down and placed his right foot exactly on my penis and pushed me down, all the while keeping his foot there, till I was sitting. He held my hand, stroked my arm, ran his fingers through my hair, pulled my nose and my cheeks. I wasn’t shocked, but I knew it was not an accident, that he placed his foot there. So this was going through my mind and also I felt awkward and embarrassed sitting there at his feet, him caressing me, while others were sitting at least 2 meters from him. He was treating me like a father, wasn’t he?" He concluded, much later, that Sai baba is far from being a father! He then goes on to relate about Keith Ord and much more - see here
Koert van de Velde posted: "The following is an excerpt from a long article (Published in Spiegelbeeld October issue 2000) by Matthijs van der Meer, Holland . Matthijs considered himself a victim of Sai Baba's inappropriete sexual approaches seven years ago, and (since) left the Organization." Nobody wanted to listen, but now we have the internet and I am no longer alone...Boys and men from the ages of seven and thirty, if they look handsome, could count on "special attention" from Sai Baba.He is very fond of light colored skin and blue eyes". Van der Meer understands why many adults were molested by this men."In my way of feeling I had no choice (in the matter). How could I choose not to follow God?", he wrote in the New Age Magazine "Spiegelbeeld" (The Mirror Picture)"
"...so I came to remind myself of a story in the Dutch magazine HP/De Tijd of January '92: the story of the London Keith Ord who declared Sai Baba had repeatedly sexually intimidated him.
As it turned out when I finally brought myself into contact with the people interviewed in the article, one of these devotees had been Keith's friend Michael Pender. Within one-and-half month after a journey to Baba and 10 interviews, he had committed suicide.
In June '95 I visited Keith. He turned out to be an exceptionally beautiful negro boy. We talked and talked and I made recordings on cassettes. >From one detail to the other Keith related what he had gone through at the time. About the vilification by devotees after he had finally opened his mouth while still being there. About a moment at which he found himself being threatened to be stoned to the ground. About the initial envy for the interviews he got. About Baba’s hugs and touches. About the despair, the loneliness, the fear... And finally, in more detail, about Baba’s striking signs of excitement. Worst of all possibly was the fact that while after the first palpations Keith was pulling up his trousers, Baba, putting a finger to his lips, had summoned him "Don’t talk!"
An Indian ex-Sai student whose credentials were checked by the BBC and who gave them an interview on film, but who must remain anonymous for family reasons, originally wrote:- "At the time, i was 17 years old, i am now 32 years old, have been married and recently widowed. My wife knew of my former faith with sai baba, but she never knew of this abusive experience. Some of my family members know the truth now (they are sympathetic to me and want me to get help). The shame i felt was very bad. I grew up in the bal vikas program from the age of 10 years old, in the UK. i knew many sai devotees including Dr Ghadia who travels the UK AND US (where i am now located). I did not begin to speak out until i realised a few years ago that i am not the only person he has abused. He is a menace to teenage boys who are to afraid and ashamed to speak up. Peer pressure from my family made me shut up at the time , but i am an adult now and i can speak the truth. As what to do about it i dont know, if he were here in the US he would have been prosecuted and convicted long ago.He is a pedophile who blankets himself with the reputation of a god/living saint drawing people to him through his "miracles", and speeches."
Hans de Kraker ( Holland ) wrote: During these four years of travels to India , Sai Baba would perform a certain ritual each time he would call me in for a private audience or interview. He would ask me to take down my pants. He would than "oint" my umbilical area; testicles and penis with oil which he "materialised". After this ritual he would ask me to pull up my pants and tidy them up.
During one of the last visits, there was a young guy who had travelled with us from Italy He had not been to India before. He accompanied his girlfriend and her father, who was part of the group.
Sai Baba called in this particular young man a few days later by him self. He came to me fairly shortly after and was quite shocked (like most people were, all for their own different reasons).
"Swami hugged me, and then kissed me, on the lips and tried engage me by probing my mouth with his tongue". When I heard I was very shocked. This young boy (18/19) was quite confused and asked me what I thought of it. He had thought of Kundalini and that it was to "balance his energy". I did not know. I told him that that could be the case but that I did not know. We both talked about it for some more time. I told him about the ritual that I had been going through over the past years and this was maybe something in that line..."
"... While leaning over to get something from a lower shelf in the closet, when rising he pointed at his cheek, indicating that he wanted me to kiss him. I did so, very surprised and kind of suspicious. I come from a country though where man and women irrespective of sex, kiss each other on the cheek three times. So after my first suspicion, relativised everything back to normal (I am still amazed today, how far ones mind can go!)
So back to that moment where he asked me to come closer. He then hugs me ( I am on my knees and he is seated on his chair-there are no people present). He now turns his face and puts his lips on mine; my head his spinning and my mind is running at 500 kilometres per hour. I don't know what to do! My mouth tightens up, and I feel extremely uncomfortable and confused with this "perceived incarnation of GOD on earth trying to kiss me on and in my mouth!! Sai Baba slaps me on my cheek and says "Loosen up!!! With other people not OK with Sai Baba OK " I am even more uncomfortable now and feel disgusted at the same time.
Sai Baba realised his and my predicament and decides not to continue. He now tells me again that he will give me everything and stands up and tells me to do padnamnamaskaar. As I go on my knees, and touch his feet with my forehead, he pulls up my arms and indicates he wants his calf muscles massaged. Although very uncomfortable with everything that had happened I still continued to listen to him. Many people knew how he liked having his calve muscles massaged and I had seen respectable men and women of all walks of life do the same thing....he now takes my head and pushes it quite firmly into his groin...he then pulls up my arms and asks me to go higher and higher and higher...NOW I AM HOLDING HIS BUTTOCKS AND WONDER WHAT THE HELL MY DIVINE MASTER IS ASKING ME TO DO!!! Fuse!!! Crash! I let go my arms and now I am even more shell shocked...he pulls up his dress, presents me his half-erect penis and invites me to take up my "Good Luck Chance": "This is your Good Luck Chance" I am now on my knees facing his erect penis, being asked to perform oral sex. He stands there, and I think: AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THIS? COULD I DO THIS?
I then instinctively stretch out my right arm and put it on the part of his chest which hides his heart and say: "I don't want this Swami, I want your heart". He now drops his dress and tells me: "Yes yes yes of course you have my heart" He now asks me to take my pants down, "discovers" my penis is not erect and tells me that that is how it is supposed to be! "Swami is inside there see, Swami is inside there." Hell NO! That is Mine and Mine! And you are certainly not in there! I thought. He asks me to do Padnamnamaskaar again and again he pulls up his dress "This is your second Good Luck Chance" he said." View full document.
John Purnell of Australia testified to Sathya Sai Baba'a serious abuses on him, including attempted anal sex. The following e-mail which recounts what happened to the Jesuit novice, John Purnell, in Sathya Sai Baba’s private interview room (as in so many other reports) was posted on the web:-
From: John Purnell (June 9th 2006 – 01:50:54)
IP: 22.214.171.124 (CPE-58-167-245-154.wa.bigpond.net.au)
Subject: (Guestbook Submission)
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I would love a response from you to my question……I was a devotee for 7 years and had many private interviews with sai baba….. in the last couple he tried to masterbate me vigorously with oil, then please explain as to why he showed me clearly his erect penis and why the hell did he try to shove it in my mouth complaining that I no longer LOVE him ??? Not to mention forcing me onto the ground of the private interview room and telling me he is God and that all is ok, Trying to shove his erection into my anus ??? Of course I was shattered after all this even to the point of suicide, like many of his REAL VICTIMS I thought he was God…Miracles….. just watch his hands at all times then you will see it is so obvious. My story is the TRUTH that you devotees always claim is paramount…..I am not the only victim hundreds upon hundreds are now telling the TRUTH…..If you can explain why God would want me to perform oral sex on him and WHY the hell God would want to penetrate my anus then PLEASE do email me with your response….I am waiting !!!!!! Look sadly the truth is Baba is a great scam like Rajneesh and ALL Indian God men ….. Look deep beyond the SHOW exterior and all you see is rotten to the core.
LONG LIVE TRUTH because TRUTH will never fail in the end…..My dear dear devotees I know the pain that is in store for you…….be prepared as Baba will fall off his throne oneday and sadly you will be shattered by the TRUTH. You ARE in my prayers.
In a further e-mail clarification of his position (to a questioner – see here) and why he had not fought off Sathya Sai Baba when being abused and why he held back with the full details of the abuses, Purnell gave an account which all investigators of sexual abuse will recognise as very common behaviour in such awkward and demeaning circumstances:-
"i was a healthy young man and he an older man and at the time all this started initially with oiling i believed him to be fully GOD hence when things got more heated i was not really fighting him off….that is why the disgust and shame and embarrasment……even up to the last interview i should have really belted him one but the power of the weak mind rules over common sense in cults as you would be aware of. look at how ALL cults operate….the total mind control at the hands of the leader…..that is why i only initially told about the oilings and that is why i did not as a jesuit novice tell all the details because i was a healthy young man and i stupidly allowed this to happen and continue for longer than it should have. not to mention the fact i did not want my mother to know the details…..even to this day joe i have not told her what i have told you…..it is no longer shame but i just wont tell her yet. many victims of baba take years to come to terms with it and only slowly reveal the full accounts not because they are adding colour to them but because of the stigma attached to allowing freely another older person to have such devoted unquestioning control…….that there is the whole crux of what my, and many other ex devotees , problem begins, that is why i can only now speak the full story. that is why back then in the early days i could not reveal to others all the events in the private room. that is why my 03 account is devoid of the inbetween details. that is why i kept quiet………i was an adult, not a defenceless child……..why and how could i allow an old man to do this without putting up a fight ??? why does ANY MALE allow another older male to rub oil on ones penis without question ??????? that is what i was fighting agaist"
More "Good Chances" for Sex with the Avatar:
One is reminded here of a book about his time near to 'the avatar' by the American devotee Howard Levin, entitled "Good Chances", and one naturally wonders how that title was chosen. Levin was a young man having very close daily contacts with Sathya Sai Baba during the 1970s when he reports Sai Baba as having said those words to him and to other young American men staying there with him, including Tal Brooke (to whom Sathya Sai Baba made clear sexual advances, as detailed by him from 1980 onwards in his books). Howard Levin failed to specify what Sathya Sai Baba meant with the phrase 'Good chances' or in which context he said it. There can be little dobubt that it was said - as reported in several other instances - as part of an invitation to a homosexual relationship with him. Howard Levin was one of a group of young Americans at the ashrams early on to whom Sathya Sai Baba gave a lot of attention and who he called 'the rowdies', probably because they were not quite so quiet and subservient as the Indian students have to be.
Here is another account sent to me by a young man, Greg Gerson from Houston , USA, who was 'oiled' by Sathya Sai Baba:-
During my visits I had five interviews. The first four of which I received private interviews alone with Sai Baba. Sai Baba also gave me two rings: one is silver with his face in gold and the other is a "green diamond". I no longer wear either. During one interview, which occurred just before I was scheduled to fly home to America, while we were alone, Sai Baba had me pull down my pants. He then "materialized" oil and pulled down my underwear and applied the oil on my lower abdomen below my navel and above my penis. He did not touch me sexually or ask me to do anything to him. He did embrace me for what seemed like a long time (perhaps 30 seconds or more) but nothing else. During that visit I was 26 or 27 years old. At another point in this interview when I was with three or four others in the smaller interview room, Sai Baba slapped me across the face quite hard when I was not looking.
I injured my green gem ring in about 1996 and discovered the silver foil inside. I took the ring to a qualified jeweler in Houston and he confirmed that the "gem" was worthless junk.
I spent almost a year and a half of my life living in Sai Baba's ashrams. I heard stories from other young men to whom Sai Baba applied oil. So perhaps it is not especially noteworthy. I also heard of a young man who Sai Baba kissed on the mouth and another young man Sai Baba touched inappropriately (on his genitals).
But, as I am sure you are very aware, these types of second and third hand stories are useless. What is desperately needed is the Indian students of Sai Baba's schools who supposedly underwent true molestation to come forward with their stories (apparently there are a lot?). Only then will progress be made in exposing Sai Baba appropriately.
Edwin Reurings, the Netherlands posted:
"During an interview Sai Baba touched me in the groin once under the pledge that he would give me a woman. Although at the time I did not regard this as an indecent act, the way he did it I thought peculiar. After studying the overwhelming number of negative experiences given on the sai baba exposed website see posting here my doubts were confirmed. Now I think that his feeling my private parts is not the worst. The worst thing of all I find is the enormous waste of time, the deception, the feelings of huge insecurity and self-doubt that have weighed on me all those years. I am very much aware that I, having all this happen to me, must bear responsibility for it. But it is Sai Baba's responsibility to practice his own teachings and be true to his self-proclaimed divinity. I tell you, in reality he is shockingly different from what he pretends to be."
Andries Krugers Dagneaux, a friend of Reurings, alsso testified to having been told by him about the sexual abuse in detail - but also of thers he knew who were also abused by Sathya Sai Vava - see 'Calumny’ Confirmed'
"I am a 34 years old male who has just survived a 11 weeks trip to Sai Baba. Sai Baba is teaching us that all religion is welcome and that he is God himself. After his return he wrote: I created a whole theory about how he was the messiah and the creator of it all as described by Isaiah. In my mind I was on the brink of surrendering to him as I could see that my prayers to him had helped me out of several troubles. Then I finally got an interview during which he "made" a watch for me (while I was looking the other way). I then got into the inner interview room where he told me that sometimes I have very very bad thoughts. I told him that it was certainly because of the darkness in me. He said that he would remove everything, and he then told me to take down my pants and then he massaged my lower stomach with oil. I couldn't help wondering that the atmosphere was more one of desire than of the divine.
Notice how he always talks about his desires for... ! I then got out of the inner interview room and after talking to some other devotees he told me to come into the inner room again. Then I was told to kiss his feet, but I couldn't really surrender to him as I really didn't feel anything divine. Then as he was standing up he told me to put my head to his hip; he then gave me a massage on my back as he told me to forget everything and just let everything go (to him). I still couldn't surrender. He then gave up. I had some question about the divine Mother Mary, so I said what about Mother Mary. He just said: I will find a good girl for you. Then I said that I just want to serve God. He looked at me as if I was a hopeless case and then the interview was over."
Said Khorramshahgol from Iran , wrote a long article, from which the following excerpts are taken verbatim:
"My first two trips I had seven interviews and a total of seven private interviews, with just me and Baba in the private interview room. Baba had materialized a gold ring with three stones which he told me were diamonds. In my first private interview, Baba did a ceremony... putting oil on his hand and pushing his hand upward between the front testicle and the back area. That area is supposed to be a special area which is very important to spiritual practice of the devotee.
In every private interview after that Baba would ask me to put down my pants while he massaged my testicle. I would reason that Baba perhaps is passing some energy to that area. In one occasion, Baba was not just massaging it, he was trying to give me a hard on... he was pushing his hand back and forth on my testicle, I was telling him about many different things on my mind. Of course, I was so sure that he is doing the best thing for me that I was thinking of something else. I was telling him about the problems in my country of Iran , how the people are suffering, the problems of my family and my own problems. He couldn't get me hard so all of a sudden with anger and an angry face he threw my thing up against my stomach and with an angry face he turned his back to me. This was the only occasion which he kept some distance between me and him while he was playing with me. Every other time, he would hug me and do it. In almost all of such interviews, Baba would breath harder and sometimes he would make noises too.
In one interview, he stood up while I was kneeling on my knees. With his right hand, to took my head and put it against his stomach. With his left hand he took my right hand and put it against his testicle. He rubbed my hand there for a short while and this time he was making loud noises of .... I tried to look up to his face to see it, but he pushed my head hard against his stomach and did not allow me to look up. So, I didn't try again. While he took my hand there, I felt his testicle, although I didn't grab it, I just let him direct my hand and do whatever he wants. At the same time, I would touch him by the outside part of my hand. As I said before, he was making loud voices while he was doing that. This took about two minutes before he let go of me and my hand and said "This is God"!!!"
Said Khorramshahgol's account of the effects of Sai Baba and his teachings etc. can be read at http://members.tripod.com/~dlane5/saideb3.html