ON THE MURDERS IN SAI BABA'S BEDROOM
Reply to Mr. Gerald Moreno
ON HIS ARTICLE PUBLISHED ON HIS WEBSITE
ON HIS ARTICLE PUBLISHED ON HIS WEBSITE
under 'BASAVA PREMANAND : DECEPTION'
Mr. Moreno’s comments appear in bold black face, and mine are in regular case navy blue type.
GM : “Basava Premanand, author of Murders in Sai Baba’s Bed Room, speculates and draws conclusions by using newspaper clippings!Basava Premanand, India’s leading rationalist and skeptic, irrationally and septically speculates on what happened on June 6th, 1993”
- Where did I state that I speculated and drew conclusions by using newspaper clippings? It is GM’s conclusion. It is not there in the references on which he has speculated.
- My writ petition in High Court etc., was only for a CBI enquiry and not to a court where I have to present witnesses and prove the case. Murders are police cases and it is the responsibility of the police to investigate and arrest the culprits and produce them in the court along with witnesses.
- Gerald Moreno whom I do not know did not post to me a copy of his speculations so as to ask me for clarifications about the case.
- All the points raised by him are from the references on which he based his speculations in the above article.
- Gerald Moreno did not care to read my book "Murders in Sai Baba’s Bed Room” wherein all his speculations would have got answered. He only quoted the articles in the Ex-baba.com to come to speculations, while my book comes to 912 printed pages and it is a critical analysis of the records which I could collect including newspaper clippings.
- I do not use such demeaning words as he uses against me. I cannot use them as they are the words used by godmen and their followers who have no real answers to the questions I have asked in page, 363 to 403 in Vol II of the book. He has not dared to answer even one of my questions, nor did he interview the persons whom he quoted to find out whether they are true or not.Look at the box wherein he refers to “
Basava Premanand ,'s leading rationalist and skeptic, irrationally and septically speculates on what happened on India June 6th, 1993”:I first thought the word ‘septically’ was a spelling mistake but before this word he had used the word ‘skeptic’. So it was not a spelling mistake – I looked to the Readers Digest Universal Dictionary and the meaning given is:1. of, pertaining to , characterised by or of the nature of sepsis.
2. causing sepsis; putrefactive, putrefying, septic, rotten.I also turned to the meaning of sepsis:
1. The presence of pus-forming micro organisms in the blood or tissues.
2. A putrefactive process in the body, putrefaction, to make rotten.I am not going to use any of the ‘septic’ words which Gerald Moreno is using in his article against me.
I am well-accustomed to the ploys of Sathya Sai Baba, his organisation and other supporters whose agenda is to discredit those who seriously question their conduct and beliefs, such as the Ex Baba group, myself and other prominent critics. Now that criticisms are being aired to millions in many countries by the BBC and Danish television documentaries (‘The Secret Swami’ and ‘Seduced), the Sai Baba forces are desperate to denigrate and vilify those who speak out against them.
GM Referenced From These Pages:
No.1 is a published article by The Week and Gerald Moreno shows not sign of having contacted The Week to find whether there is anything false in the article copied from my book Murders in Sai Baba’s Bed Room Vol II page 213 to 222No. 2 to 5are from my book "Murders in Sai Baba’s Bed Room".
No. 6 an article by Beatrice Newberry published (2000-12-24) in The Independent, London.
No. 7 from Hari Sampath’s internet comments..
GM : Basava Premanand is known as India's "Gurubuster" and is reputed as the oldest member of India's International Brotherhood of Magicians.
I do not know from where Gerald Moreno got the above information. I searched all his references and I could not find it. There are also several factual mistakes in the article by Beatrice Newberry. In ref no.7 she wrote:
"At 71 B.Premanand is the oldest member of the group and its youngest at heart" There is another sentence:
"For while other members of India’s International Brotherhood of Magicians are hobbyists, Premanand’s mission is more ambitious – to expose any man who pretends his magic tricks are miracles"
I did not know that Beatrice Newberry got it wrong. If she had sent the manuscript of the article I would have corrected it. It is also surprising that GM did not contact her or the newspaper "The Independent-London" to check whether the article was without any mistakes. He did not do it for reasons best known to him.
IBM is an International organisation registered in United States and I am a member of IBM India Ring No.261. I am the oldest member in this Ring. There are hundreds of Rings over the world and I have myself met many old magicians who are much older than me. What Beatrice Newberry has called me is “India ’s Chief Fakir-Buster.”GM : He is also said to be convener of the Federation of Indian Rationalists (which is headed by the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal) and he is also the editor of a monthly journal, called the "Indian Skeptic".
I am the founder convener of the Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations (GM has made a mistake in the name) and his next mistake: it is not headed by the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal. Both are different organisations.I believe that he took this information from Beatrice Newberry’s article, but did not contact me as to how far it is correct. I am not responsible for the mistakes others make.Moreover GM has conveniently left out the word "Committee" from the second organisation. This proves how poor his observation is.What Beatrice Newberry stated was:
that energy has also enabled him to fulfill joint roles as head of the Indian Rationalist Society, President of the Committee for Scientific Investigation of claims of the Paranormal.”
Here, I am not the president of, CSICOP which is registered in US and the Chairman of which is Dr. Paul Kurtz. There are several committees in many parts of the world and I am only the convener of the Indian CSICOP. Yes, I am the Editor of Indian Skeptic.
GM: However, there is no information regarding his education and qualifications. All articles that pertain to him give his only qualifications as being an "amateur magician" and a "fanatic" or "irreverent" rationalist. That's it. Why everyone is silent in regards to his education is a mystery. This is important because Basava Premanand plays the role of a forensic expert in the book he wrote about Sathya Sai Baba and the murders. The silence in regards to Basava Premanand's education might have to do with the fact that he did not get one: >
I have copied about thousand pages of GM’s vilifying articles, but I could not find in any his age, educational qualifications and biodata. At least he has got some information about me from the Beatrice Newberry article.
Moreno has not read the Beatrice Newberry article properly. She actually stated:
"it was the start of a rebellious school career, at the end of which Premanand was thrown out for joining the student movement for independence. From the age of 12, Premanand was given an imaginative schooling at home".
It was while studying in the 8th standard that I was dismissed from school for my participation in the Independence Movement. If he had used his wits, he could have worked out in which class I was then studying (at the age of 12). Even with intelligence he could not have made out this fact, as I got two double promotions.
I wonder how he speculated without any investigations that my only qualifications are as an amateur magician, a fanatic or irreverent rationalist. These qualifications should be there in the references given by GM. But none exist except in the Newberry article, which is quite different from what Moreno has quoted. It stated: "Over the years, his acts have become increasingly irreverent, ridiculing every trickster by name, from the smallest Baba upwards".
It is not necessary that I am a forensic expert. I do not know whether Moreno is one. He has not introduced himself. I can get opinions from the forensic experts and Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology, which is a life member of our committee, as is Dr. P.M. Bhargava, who was the founder director of CCMB.
GM : Basava Premanand was thrown out of school at the age of 12 due to a political dispute in which his parents refused to fill in a religion or caste on his school application form.
Here again Moreno is confusing readers. I quote what Newberry wrote: "His parents took the unorthodox view that all religions were the same. When it was time to enroll Premanand at the local school, they refused to fill in his religion or caste on the application form. It was the start of a rebellious school career". I am wondering how he twisted this to suit him. Why I was dismissed from school has been explained in the previous reply, which I quote again:
"It was the start of a rebellious school career, at the end of which Premanand was thrown out for joining the student movement for independence".GM : Consequently, Basava Premanand was home taught
What Beatrice stated was: "Instead from the age 12, Premanand was given an imaginative schooling at home"In actual fact, my father appointed a B.Sc. teacher to help me (and my younger brother) to learn science until I reached B.Sc., standard in these years. It was not 4 hours teaching as in schools and colleges, but 10 to 12 hours learning with practicals.
GM : One day, Basava Premanand broke a mercury thermometer and hid it under his bed on an aluminum plate, exposing himself directly to toxic mercury fumes (which can cause psychological disturbances). Despite his father being knowledgeable in science, Basava Premanand's father ordered him to wash the plate vigorously, exposing him, once again, directly to toxic mercury. Basava Premanand supposedly experimented many times with mercury, as he claims that aluminum reacting with mercury and moisture produce aluminum oxide ash (vibhuti).
Is this to brain-wash people subtly that I have psychological disturbances? A frequently used attack on those who has searching questions is to suggest that the critic is mentally unsound. This shameful, intellectually dishonest tactic deals in innuendo, which replaces facts and rational argumentation. GM has also used this technique on the Internet to try to defame other critics of Sai Baba, such as a very convincing alleging victim of Sai Baba’s sexual abuse, Said Khorramshahgol. (Read about it here)
As the above speculation was made by GM from the Newberry article, I shall quote what she wrote:
"One day, I broke my father’s thermometer, so I hid it on an aluminium plate under my bed. When my father found it out, he ordered me to wash the plate vigorously, but, when I did, a frothy grey substance appeared."
Beatrice Newberry has mistaken what I narrated. Aluminum will not react with mercury in moisture and produce a grey substance. In my accident of breaking the thermometer, I had collected and poured it in a glass bottle and a stopper and the glass pieces of the thermometer were kept in an aluminium plate which was available then and kept under the lab table. When father wanted the thermometer for his experiments I confessed and when he asked me what happened to the mercury and the broken glass pieces I showed him the bottle and the glass pieces in the aluminium plate. He kept the mercury and asked me to clean the plate thoroughly. I cleaned it with tamarind pulp and coconut fibre along with water and when the plate got dried up, a greyish powder was forming in the plate and we all got surprised. The unseen globules of mercury in the aluminum plate had reacted with tamarind producing the greyish powder and it formed like white ant hills.It is surprising that GM did not conduct experiment to find if it was true to contradict. If he knew a little science and did the experiment, he could have added that my experiments are also false. My father did not have any university degrees, but he was a man of genius with many inventions to his credit.
GM : Basava Premanand is highly critical about the profit making at Sathya Sai Baba's ashram and has pointed out profit margins in degrading terms.
GM has not mentioned from where he collected this information. I did not find this in any of the references he has quoted. If he would clarify from where he got this information, I could explain. In many articles I have discussed the profit making by Sathya Sai Baba even on selling the vibhuti which he claims he creates.
GM : However, Basava Premanand has apparently succumbed to the same temptation in regards to selling his book, "Murders in Sai Baba's Bed Room", which sells for 400 rupees (approximately $9 US Dollars) in India, but sells to foreigners for $40 US Dollars! Shipping is free (about $3 US dollars). So, Basava Premanand is making a little over a 300% profit from foreigners! Tsk! Tsk! His book was published in 2001, 8 years after the murders happened (just for your information).
Here again before GM speculated, he has not asked for my clarifications. First the prepublication price of the book was fixed at Rs.150/- and US $ 15/-. The people sent the amount as advance as I did not have enough funds to print it. I could print only about 500 copies and 90% copies were purchased by the life members and pre publication depositors. Life members get my books at 50% discount. The sale of these books were a loss to me, as I had to pay a lot for printing the photos on imported thick art paper and get these printed from quality printers. The book is posted by airmail and the expenses come to about US $ 6.Without proper investigations and records I do not publish anything. Moreover lots of money has to be spent. So it took a great deal of time, as I am a middle-class person living on the sale of books. I do not also beg for donations like GM’s god-incarnate, nor do I collect any donations. So it takes much and valuable time. GM has falsely accused me of being a profiteer. Why? What is his real motivation? What agenda does he have that he is so careless about a person’s good reputation?
GM : Basava Premanand's conspiracy theory is a true conspiracy theory; full of unsubstantiated accusations, blatant assumptions and Sai-Fi speculations that does not befit a true scientist or rationalist. As a matter of fact, even Robert Priddy, who is very critical of Sathya Sai Baba, does not even come close to making any of the allegations made by Basava Premanand.
For GM’s information, I have not authored any conspiracy theories and I would request him to point any such in my book "Murders in Sai Baba’s Bed Room" or articles in Indian Skeptic. He has not proved false any of my questions on page 363 and 397 in Vol II of the book. Nor has he touched any of the facts the photographs reveal about the murders to prove that they are false, though he refers to the photos in his speculations. Forget about the summing up. My writ was for the High Court only to order for a CBI investigation and the data collected by me were based on the court and government records which I could procure and the newspaper clippings.
GM : In classic, unscientific form, Basava Premanand submits, of all things, newspaper clippings as "evidence" to support his claims against Sathya Sai Baba. Despite the fact that many of the newspaper articles contradict each other and fully indulged in a variety of conspiracy theories, referring to numerous, unnamed "eye witnesses" and anonymous "reliable sources" for their accounts. Basava Premanand is under the impression that these newspaper clippings are factual because they were published in a newspaper and consequently used as factual evidence against Sathya Sai Baba! A standard never used, or applied, in any civilized court of law! Ever!
The newspaper items were submitted not as a proof but just to show how agitated the people were because of the destruction of the evidence by the police and the silence by Sathya Sai Baba and the followers who were present at the time of the murders. Every newspaper in India published about the murders, although the Sathya Sai Baba official magazine Sanathana Sarathi was remarkably silent.
I am afraid that GM does not know anything about Indian Courts. He could have approached Justice Bhagavathi or Justice Ranganath Mishra. There are several instances where the High Courts and Supreme Court took suo moto action against the alleged accused based on news paper reports. One such instance, which happened when the Andhra High Court was hearing the case of 6 murders in Sai Baba’s Bedroom, has been published on pages 25 to 28 in Vol I of the book. GM’s speculations prove that he has called Indian courts uncivilised.
GM : Basava Premanand had every opportunity to call the reporters who uncovered their "evidence" as material witnesses, but chose not to do so. Why? If the evidence the reporters uncovered was so incriminating, why does Basava Premanand ignore the actual incriminating evidence and use newspaper clippings instead? This highly irrational approach in gathering "evidence" comes from India's leading "rationalist"! Believe it or not.The press reporters are not responsible to give out their information or evidence to anyone. They can only be summoned by police on the orders of the courts. How did GM speculate that I did not meet the press reporters? From reading his speculations it is clear that he is no lawyer and that he has not consulted any lawyers with the slightest knowledge of Indian laws while preparing this article. It is plain that his motive is just to vilify me.
GM : The foundation stone to Basava Premanand's conspiracy theory entirely rests on the times the assaults actually happened.
In all murder or criminal cases time is the prime evidence. If the alleged murder victims were not in the place where they are alleged to have been murdered or vice versa, the case would not stand. That was what the Kanchi Kamakoti Jayendra Tirtha Swami did by sending by his coterie to the police station to confess they had murdered Shankaraman. Police discovered only afterwards that one of the accused was in jail at the time the crime, a fact which gave clues that swami was the person who got Shankararaman murdered.In connection with the 6 murders in Sai Baba’s bed room, , the alleged aides were in the Hospital at the alleged time of the murder in intensive care and died at 9-50 and 9-45 pm as per the inquisition report. Moreover, the Mandal magistrate did not find blood on the pants of N.Radhakrishna and Sai Kumar Mahajan while potassium cyanide bottle, syringes and needles were found in the front of Sathya Sai Baba’s dining room. Now let us see what GM will conclude as to whether or not time is the prime factor in relation to this or any other criminal case.
GM : It is Basava Premanand's speculation that N. Radhakrishna and Sai Kumar Mahajan were NOT stabbed at the mandir complex, but were poisoned by Vishnu Bhatt and Anil Patley (the 2 other devotees inside the mandir) with potassium cyanide in buttermilk and were subsequently stabbed at the Super Specialty Hospital and then were immediately cremated in an electric crematorium to dispose of the evidence (despite the fact that N. Radhakrishna and Sai Kumar Mahajan were not cremated immediately or in an electric crematorium)!
First of all N.Radhakrishna and Sai Kumar Mahajan cannot be stabbed by the alleged assailants at 10.30 PM because they were in the super speciality hospital and died there at 9.50 and 9.45 pm.
The question is how and why potassium cyanide, syringes and needles were found in the western side of the mandir at the door which leads up to Sai Baba’s dining room.
When I did not mention anywhere that N. Radhakrishana and Sai Kumar Mahajan were cremated in the electric crematorium, GM wants to confuse people with false information. What I have mentioned in Reference 4 moreover was that this would have been done in secrecy and the bodies sent to the super specialty hospital to be cremated in the electric crematorium, so that they would disappear from the earth. This is supported by the fact that the alarm system was activated only at 10:30 PM and not earlier when the 4 injured aides were taken to the hospital"
“The murder of the 4 alleged assailants also would have been a secret if their bodies were cremated in the electric crematorium. But because they activated the alarm the devotees gathered around the Sai Baba residence. So the police help was sought to get out of the murders by a story explained in the F.I.R to rescue Sai Baba. It is this alarm which forced Sai Baba to rush out of the place of crime so that he would not have been accused of murders."
GM : Basava Premanand takes part of his conspiracy theory from a discourse given by Sathya Sai Baba in which Sathya Sai Baba talks about N. Radhakrishna offering him buttermilk. Baba took a small sip and let N. Radhakrishna drink the rest (However, this does not account for the alleged poisoning of Sai Kumar Mahajan).
According to Sathya Sai Baba this happened at 7:30pm. Does GM believe that the story told by Sathya Sai Baba and published by Sri Sathya Sai Publication Society (Vol.1 Page 366 in the book) is false? Did not Radhakrishna go out at 7.30pm and was not Sai Kumar Mahajan with Sathya Sai Baba In his bedroom? When Radha Krishna knows that Sathya Sai Baba does not drink buttermilk in the evening why did he offer butter milk to Sathya Sai Baba? Was he afraid that the cooks had mixed the poison in the buttermilk? Was it to prove that the butter milk did not contain poison that Sathya Sai Baba sipped a little?
GM : Despite the fact that Basava Premanand sees Sathya Sai Baba as a liar, corrupt, a sexual deviant and participating in illegal operations ranging from outdated weapons to narcotics, Basava Premanand believes Sathya Sai Baba's discourse statements and uses them to form his conspiracy theory!
This story was told by Sathya Sai Baba to his audience - that the poison was not in the butter milk. I could not find the allegations GM has mentioned in any of the references he has stated, He must prove that Sathya Sai Baba’s story was false. This story is published by Sathya Sai Baba Book Trust in Sanathana Sarathi and Sathya Sai Speaks, as well as on a Sai Internet site. The people around Sathya Sai Baba in his mandir have remained silent. If Sathya Sai Baba was innocent what was the necessity for the coterie to remain silent?
GM : So, if one could adequately refute Basava Premanand's time line, one can adequately refute the foundation upon which his entire conspiracy theory is built.
I invite GM to refute adequately the time line with proof and not with the kind of speculations he has made in this article, without any proof except empty words. Please note that I have not accepted any where that the time of assault was 10.30pm
GM : Basava Premanand starts off by trying to establish a time line for the assaults. He quotes the F.I.R. (First Information Report from the Police) and Indian Newspapers to establish a factual basis for when the assaults occurred. Basava Premanand references: Occurrences of offence Day: Sunday, Date 6-6-93, Time 10:30 PM (Vol. 1, FIR Page 336) The Hindu (Vol. 2, Page 12), The Independent (Vol. 2, Page 17), Indian Express (Vol. 2, Page 25), The Statesman (Vol. 2, Page 31), Times of India (Vol. 2, Page 36) of 8.6.1993 have stated that the 4 assailants tried to crash into the residence of Satya Sai Baba at 10:30 PM - 10:45 PM on 6-6-1993."
Entering into Sathya Sai Baba’s residence does not mean that the assaults happened then. If GM wanted to prove the innocence of Sathya Sai Baba, he ought to have first established with proof that all the newspaper clippings are false and that all the records I have produced are false. Why did he not do it when he apparently believes – despite his pro forma denials - that Sathya Sai Baba has powers like omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence? Why doesn’t he ask Sathya Sai Baba to open his mouth and prove all these are statements are false? Does he intend to confuse the followers of Sathya Sai Baba by feeding them with meaningless speculations? Did he talk with the newspaper people? At least to Mathrubhumi (whose director, I may add, is also a trustee of the Sathya Sai Baba Central Trust? I have NOT fixed the time line of assaults on the 4 aides and the 4 alleged assailants. There is no proof that these 8 were assaulted at 10.30 or 10.45pm. Could GM please tell us the references on which his speculations are based?GM : Consequently, Basava Premanand establishes as the time for the assaults. What is ironic is that Basava Premanand uses the F.I.R. as evidence in establishing a time for the assaults. Basava Premanand has openly, and unequivocally, stated that the F.I.R. is not only unreliable but gives a fictitious account by corrupt police officers who tried to cover their tracks. This was confirmed by a C.I.D. investigation that found no less than 13 scathing discrepancies in the F.I.R. and had three police officers arrested. So if Basava Premanand openly decries the integrity of the F.I.R., why does he use it as evidence in establishing a time line? Then, after using the corrupt F.I.R. as evidence, Basava Premanand sites (again
‘cites’) newspapers articles as more proof regarding the time when the assaults occurred. Not telling us that these very same newspaper articles were simply repeating the contents of the F.I.R.! As a matter of fact, even the Indian Express Moreno's frequent misspelling of the work 9-6-1993expressed frustration in obtaining the F.I.R. Clearly, the newspapers were simply repeating the contents of the F.I.R. Nevertheless, if the F.I.R. was truly written by corrupt police officers (as Basava Premanand claims) then the F.I.R and the newspaper articles that quoted from it are all unreliable.
I have not established as the time of assaults of N. Radhakrishna and Sai Kumar Mahajan or other four in any of references on which GM’s speculations are based, when the inquest report states that they were in the super speciality hospital before 9.50 and and were dead. How could the assault on them happen at ? The time of – was when the 4 alleged assailants entered the Sathya Sai Baba mandir. I have not quoted the F.I.R to come to this conclusion. GM does not explain when the Police Officers were arrested or why the criminal cases against them were closed, while the findings of the CB-CID were neglected. On 8th the newspapers could not get the copy of F.I.R. (First Information report) This can be verified from the newspaper clippings in the book. The article in Deccan Herald dated 12.6.1993 published in Vol II of my book page 12 proves it. I challenge GM to prove where I have used F.I.R as evidence.
GM : Consequently, Basava Premanand has, himself, refuted his own time line.. The time line is completely and utterly untrue and un-provable. Basava Premanand had two options: To either accept the F.I.R. as true, or not. He chose to accept the F.I.R. as untrue. So that now, he accepts it is as being true is hypocritical. He, like Robert Priddy, is taking snippets here and there and then draws erroneous conclusions. This from a rationalist and believer in science!
GM has not at all shown that I have refuted my own time line or that it is in any way false. Except for him and the local police, no one can accept it as true. I have not asked him how many options I have. He would dishonestly put words into my mouth to prove that I have accepted it as being true. In this instance, he does not point out which of the references demonstrate that I have accepted F.I.R as true.On 9.6.1993 Indian Express (Vol II page 55 of my book) informed that several attempts to gain access to the F.I.R filed in the case were also thwarted by the officers and their subordinates. I have not accepted that the F.I.R was true anywhere but there is other information collected in the book which GM has not mentioned. By twisting words GM is confusing Sathya Sai Baba’s followers, and the issue as a whole.
GM : Let us look further into Basava Premanand's conspiracy theory. Because the inquests on both
N. Radhakrishnaand Sai Kumar Mahajan state that, initially, they were both alive (although unconscious) at . at the Super Specialty Hospital (and died shortly thereafter, confirming Sathya Sai Baba's time of 10pm for N. Radhakrishna), Basava Premanand believes that since the F.I.R. and the newspapers gave a time of 10:30pm – 10:45pm, that the stabbing occurred earlier at the Super Specialty Hospital.
I have not confirmed time of for Radha Krishna as he was already dead in super speciality hospital at 9.50 PM. GM has not published any reference about Sathya Sai Baba’s time of for
N. Radhakrishna. Therefore how they could be stabbed in Sathya Sai Baba’s mandir at by the alleged assailants?
GM : The implications, of course, would mean that all the doctors and numerous others that were involved, all contributed to a cover-up, making the inquests information (and times) unreliable. Putting this troubling fact aside, Basava Premanand states that because the Post Mortem reports do not specifically state the injuries were "ante-mortem", that MUST mean that the injuries were "post-mortem"! This, despite the fact that both inquests from the
Super Specialty Hospital said that both deaths were due to the stabbings. When the post mortem reports on the 4 alleged assailants very clearly states that they died of shock and haemorrhage due to fire arm injuries about 12 to 36 hours prior to autopsy and all injuries are ante-mortem only, why in the case of N.Radhakrishna and Sai Kumar Mahajan was it stated the deceased would appear to have died of shock and hemorrhage as the result of multiple injuries? The doctor did not specifically state that the injuries were ante-mortem because he suspected that the injuries were post mortem.I have not mentioned anywhere in the references that, because the post mortem reports do not specifically state that the injuries were ante-mortem, it must mean that the injuries were ante-mortem."The opinion in the post-mortem reports of the two aides of Sai Baba states vaguely (Vol I page 347,349) that the 4 deceased would appear to have died to shock & hemorrhage on a result of multiple injuries. This proves that the two aides died not of stab injuries. It is not the inquest report but the post-mortem and forensic report which explains how they died. The mandal magistrate was not there at the place of occurrence as a witness to state that both the deaths were due to stabbing.
GM : Basava Premanand knows that the person who did the Post Mortem was Dr. C. P. Venkatanarayan. Why didn't he contact him or call him as a material witness for expert testimony? If Basava Premanand is correct, then why is Dr. C. P. Venkatanarayan not supporting him? Instead of getting any sort of evidence from Dr. C. P. Venkatanarayan, Basava Premanand is playing the role of a forensic expert, in which he has no known education. It is also important to point out that Dr. C. P. Venkatanarayan did the post mortem on both
N. Radhakrishnaand Sai Kumar Mahajan, while two other examiners did the post mortems on the four assailants. This might explain why the specific reference to the injuries being "ante-mortem" was not specifically stated. Basava Premanand never asked Dr. C. P. Venkatanarayan for clarification that was only one question away. Why?
I know very well the Doctors who conducted post mortem. Without inquiring with the Doctor concerned GM is questioning me why I did not call him as a material witness for expert testimony? My writ petition was for a CBI enquiry. The higher courts are not the places to bring witnesses. (How thoroughly ill-informed GM so often is!) This is done in the lower courts after the police file charge sheet. I am wondering how GM came to the conclusion that the doctors did not support me. I did not play the role of a forensic expert. (GM seems to play that role?) Again, we have members who are forensic experts: the CCMB and Dr.P.M. Bhargava the founder Director of CCMB (Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology) are our life members.
There are others like Dr.M.W.Pandit, who is also a life member, and who proved in the court against Swami Premananda of Trichinopoly that our method was far superior to the methods in use in
. (But GM thinks his guesses are superior to their findings, presumably?). GM has claimed that Swami Premananda was innocent in the rape and murder case. This case was also a PIL (Public Interest Litigation) case and argued by the PUCL (People’s Union for Civil Liberties) advocate and went up to the Supreme Court and proved that GM’s assumptions were false. I will discuss this in another article as to how Sathya Sai Baba and his followers were scared because it could happen to Sathya Sai Baba also. So also case against Kanchi Kamakoti Swamis. He has engaged Sathya Sai Baba’s advocates. EnglandWithout asking me or the doctor who did the post mortem, GM fails to consider the fact that I had met all the three doctors. My letters dated 7.1.1994 in vol I page 81 state that I have met them in a meeting whose terms remain confidential.
GM wrongly assumes that the 4 post mortems on the alleged assailants were done by other doctors, and that Dr.C.P.Venkatanarayan did the Post-Mortem on Radha Krishna and Sai Kumar Mahajan. (This event, by the way, might explain why the specific reference to the injuries being ante-mortem was not specifically stated). Here also, he did not enquire with the Doctor nor did he consult the forensic experts. If he had consulted, they would have explained that they were not sure that the words "would appear" are used in the report. After the viscera are sent to the forensic department, tests are done. The final report is filed in the Court. In this case the forensic test report was not produced anywhere and was suppressed.
GM : To futher his time-line conspiracy theory, Basava Premanand raises the issue of the telegram. The police said the four assailants, under the pretext of delivering a telegram, confronted the devotees in the mandir at Basava Premanand states that the ashram withheld the telegram as evidence. Then, later, Basava Premanand states that Mathrubhumi, another Indian Newspaper (Vol. 1, Page 70), investigated and found that the telegram was sent by Chandraswami and was handed over to Suresh Santharam Prabhu (one of the four assailants) at 10:05 PM on June 6th, 1993 and his signature was received.
The police have nowhere stated that the four alleged assailants confronted the devotees in the Mandir at . This report on the investigation on the telegram was published in Mathrubhumi after checking with the records of the Telecommunications department of Puttaparthi. Justice Balakrishna Erady a trustee of the Sathya Sai Baba central Trust is a Director of Mathrubhumi. More than this, this newspaper’s owners are strong Sathya Sai Baba devotees. This report on the telegram was published along with an article by Justice Balakrishna Erady about what happened on 6.6.1993. If the telegram news was false, it is all too likely that Justice Erady, being a director would have taken action against the reporter of Mathrubhumi and the person who has accepted Sathya Sai Baba as god incarnate.
GM : Despite no telegram ever being submitted into evidence, Basava Premanand is more than willing to accept a newspaper article in place of the actual evidence! No one has seen the telegram. However, Mathrubhumi claims they investigated and found the evidence. Once again, why didn't Basava Premanand use the person, who uncovered this evidence, as a material witness? Once again, Basava Premanand discards the material witness in place of a newspaper clipping!
It is not my work to submit evidence of the telegram and it is impossible for me to produce the telegram as it was received by Suresh Santharam Prabhu who was murdered the same night. It is for the law enforcement department to collect evidence and produce them in the lower court and file a charge sheet.
GM : The rest of Basava Premanand's conspiracy theory is based on this time line that has been shown to be un-provable, untenable and unreliable. Also, Basava Premanand's conspiracy is riddled with contradictions. One example (out of many) is when Basava Premanand cites the four post mortem documents as genuine and legitimate evidence, yet contraindicates their findings by claiming that the police brutally beat and tied up the four assailants prior to shooting them. However, the four post mortem documents do not mention any injuries separate from firearm injuries. None. This would adequately refute Basava Premanand's statements that the four assailants were brutally beaten by the police officers.
GM has not proved with any records that my time theories based on this time line that has been shown to be unprovable, intenable and unreliable. Nor that my theory about conspiracy is riddled with contradictions.
Is GM not confused in vilifying me? I have never contradicted the findings of the 4 post-motem reports.
GM : I fully agree with the CID investigation that the police tampered with and destroyed evidence and lied about it. Despite Basava Premanand agreeing to the findings of the CID, Basava Premanand also says the CID is corrupt as well! Such being the case, the truth will never be truly known to Basava Premanand who sees corruption in anything related to Sathya Sai Baba. Sadly, in such a scenario, conspiracy theories multiply quickly and spread like wildfire. Basava Premanand, a critical skeptic of Sathya Sai Baba since 1968, could not resist the temptation of indulging and furthering his own specious conspiracy theory in a book. A conspiracy theory not even supported by other critics and skeptics of Sathya Sai Baba. A conspiracy theory that accuses "the A.P. state government, the central government, central excise and customs department, the law enforcement department, state CB- CID, C.B.I, CVC and all Courts" of covering up and conspiring for Sathya Sai Baba (who happens to be a fake, fraud and a lousy magician with no paranormal powers). So there you have it: Basava Premanand's trial of Sathya Sai Baba by newspaper clippings and assumptions.
It is sane that
agrees with the C.I.D investigations which revealed that the police tampered with and destroyed evidence and lied about it. I have also not mentioned anywhere that CID is corrupt as well. It is true that I see corruption in Sathya Sai Baba and as I am not staying with Sathya Sai Baba I cannot agree to the statement by GM that I see corruption in anything related to Sathya Sai Baba. MorenoI have not indulged in any temptation of furthering a specious conspiracy theory in a book. I am wondering if GM has any proof to prove that I am not supported by other critics and skeptics of Sathya Sai Baba. Again, GM falsely says that I accuse the AP Government, the central government, Central Excise and Customs department, the law enforcement department, state CB-CID, CBI, CVC and all courts of covering up and conspiring for Sathya Sai Baba. I contend that he is a fake, fraud and a lousy magician with no paranormal powers.What I expressed in the reference 4 is as follows:
“The AP State government, the Central Government, the Central Excise and Customs Department, the State CB-CID, CBI. CVC. Courts - all know what is happening in Sai Baba’s Empire. This I have expressed because investigations departments like CB-CID, CBI, and CVC have already collected details but, due to political influence, they cannot take any action. Removing the words "all know what is happening in Sai Baba’s empire´ GM has stealthily added "of covering up and conspiring for Sathya Sai Baba”. (The assertions in brackets are his).
GM’s conclusion was: "so there you have it - Basava Premanand’s trial of Sathya Sai Baba by newspaper clippings and assumptions.”
Here, GM would ignore all the records I have published in the book "Murders in Sai Baba’s Bed Room". He does so as to protect Sathya Sai Baba by his false assumptions and speculations without going through the writ petition and the questions in Vol II Page 363 to 403. Is he afraid to look at a single question in these pages?
Better not inform Basava Premanand that he got his story wrong because Hari Sampath, at http://exbaba.com/articles/murders.html, on ExBaba.com, revealed the "real" story about what "really" happened on
June 6th, 1993! Hari Sampath claims that no post mortem examinations were done (contrary to the fact that they were) because if the post mortems were actually done (hello, they were done), they would have, "easily revealed the cause of death was NOT BULLET INJURIES" (wrong again Hari Sampath, the post mortems ruled the cause of death from bullet injuries)! Hari Sampath knows exactly what Sathya Sai Baba said and did because unnamed villagers, who knew "everything that happened", told him so! Furthermore, the crowds fell upon the four assailants and clubbed them to death with sticks and knives! Something not supported by either the photographic evidence or the post mortem examinations! The police "pumped bullets" into the corpses of the four assailants (that were killed by the crowds) and "hushed" everything up! Does any of this sound the least bit reliable or honest? Just a bunch of sciolistic accounts told by a b unch of frenzied and vindictive Anti-Sathya Sai Baba activists who care very little for accuracy and honesty.
I cannot talk for others as I do not have any records on which GM bases his conclusions except the articles in Vol II page 352 to 360 in which I have commented on page 355, that what I wrote in 1978 is now confirmed by Sai Baba’s Intelligence and Security.Now, whoever Mr. Gerald GM may be, other key critics of Sathya Sai Baba and his organisation have boldly come out. Not GM, who has concealed his email address, phone number and postal address and has used aliases like ‘Joe’, ‘Vishvarupa’ and other bogus names and e-mail addresses. I got his article "Basava Premanand: Deception" from Murali Krishna Yachendra at Nellore where I had gone to meet the Superintendent of Police, Nellore and District Collector of Nellore District to find how far my complaints have been investigated. I already gave a copy of GM’s article to them and promised my reply to his vilifying article.I note he has claimed: "I am in no way associated with the Sai Organisation, nor do I belong to any Sai group center. I alone decided to make these pages with no external prompting or guidance. All the material on these pages is the sole and original opinion of me, Gerald GM.”This is what every Pro Sathya Sai Baba website mentions as devotees know very well know that Sathya Sai Baba does not get involved in legal battles.I had to copy many of GM’s articles on his website at http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/ex-baba.com/, which has come to about thousand pages from 2000 to 2005 June and I find that he has vilified me in many articles. I shall go through them and answer them to prove that his speculations are not based on truth and I shall send copies of my comments to the Cyber Crime Department through the law enforcement department.
I have already filed a complaint against Murali Krishna to the law enforcement department and to the District Collector,
, Andhra Pradesh to take legal action against him under cyber crimes. A copy of GM’s article along with reply also is sent to them for action. Nellore
See also important relevant document:-
Summary overview of the situation on the 1993 murders in Sathya Sai Baba's bedroom
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