EXTREMELY SERIOUS INTERNET LIBEL AGAINST BARRY PITTARD
Several active defamers of critics of Sathya Sai Baba try to divert devotees' attention from the many and most credible world-wide allegations of criminal acts (especially paedophilia and other sexual abuse) of Sathya Sai Baba by attacking these exposers as paedophiles, sexual abusers, criminals etc.
(his definitive refutation is here)
a fair measure and example of the level of inflamed hate and spite among some Sai Baba supporters
The range of fallacies demonstrated in the posting of Gerald Moreno, Lisa de Witt and co. is almost endless. The overarching fallacy to which they are all fully addicted is argumentum ad hominem, namely, to defame a person then imply that nothing that person states can be honest or true etc.
For readability, unnecessary repetitions of former postings and hotlinks have been eliminated. The original postings were made on the now-defunct Yahoo Groups sathyasaibaba2. The identification number of each posting is given.
GERALD MORENO
The following postings were copied from Yahoo Groups sathyasaibaba2. Vishvarupa108 is the pseudonym of Gerald Moreno of Las Cruces, New Mexico, who also occasionally signs himself ‘joe’ and ‘joe108’ on bulletin boards. Note how his bitter schadenfreude overflows in his pretence that his invasive dirt-digging was making a valid case against Pittard, though it was concocted from his misunderstandings of replies to his inter-continental telephone calls invading the privacy of Barry's former partner combined with his hateful imagination. He eventually had to admit (though only in the most curmudgeonly manner possible) that his facts were wrong!
For readability, unnecessary repetitions of former postings and hotlinks have been eliminated. The original postings were made on the now-defunct http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/. The identification number of each posting is given.
From: vishvarupa108
Date: Sat Feb 4, 2006 3:30 am
Subject: A Grace Disgraced: The Rise & Fall Of Barry Pittard
before turning 52)! The age of consent, in Austalia, is sixteen: Refs: http://www.ageofconsent.com/australia.htmAccording to these legal references, Barry Pittard unlawfully engaged in sexual interactions with a minor and
could have been (and possibly be) lawfully indicted under the Australian Criminal Code, Provision 210.(1)(a)(b
(c)(d) and 229B.(1) ("Any adult who maintains an unlawful relationship of a sexual nature with a child under the
prescribed age is guilty of a crime and is liable to imprisonment for 14 years").Therefore, using the standards that Barry applies to SSB, one can very well make the case that Barry Pittard is
also guilty of "pedophilia"!Barry's mate (whose name I will not mention out of respect for her privacy, her children and online business)
stated, on her webpage (out of her own mouth), that she was 15 years old when she conceived her first son. She
named Barry Pittard as being her "mate" and referred to Barry Pittard as the father.Also, it is well known, among Sai Devotees, that Barry fathered his son with such a young girl, although many
are unaware that she was 15 at the time she conceived.It is often seen that those who boast the loudest about morality and molestations have the most to hide. This
is true with numerous televangelists and priests. Barry Pittard, at the age of 51 (supposedly a Sai Devotee at
the time) had unlawful sex with an underage teenager, impregnanted her,fathered offspring and tried to keep it
a secret (notice how Barry NEVER makes any references to his children and his past mate). Another high-ranking
Anti-Sai Activist comes tumbling down off his moral soapbox.
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Message 47497
From: vishvarupa108
Date: Sun Feb 5, 2006 6:38 pm
Subject: Tony O'Clery: Defending Pedophilia: A Fraud out of his own mouth.--- In sathyasaibaba2@yahoogroups.com, "Tony OClery" <aoclery@...> wrote:
> Namaste, Avatars and Jivanmuktas do not have any desire of ego or preference. sb was addicted to betel and
>prefers a certain andhra cereal for breakfast. Therefore he has desire and is certainly just an ordinary man
> a fraud guru. Krishna and Buddha substantiate what I am saying...Tony.
> Namaste Lets all start again with sb's own words...Tony. Simon, Joe and Lisa are you on your meds so we can
> debate without mania and paranoia?
******************************************Tony is fraud out of his own mouth. Anthony Tony O'Clery has openly lied about Sathya Sai Baba and FULLY ADMITTED to lying for "entertainment purposes": http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Baba.com/A-Oclery/anthony-tony-ocler\y.html
Tony O'Clery opendly defends and attempts to detract from Barry Pittard's act of "pedophilia" with an underage teenager when he was 51 years old! Barry Pittard is the person who took his Anti-Pedophilia campaign to the doorsteps of the international community, pointing fingers and casting slurs directly at Sathya Sai Baba, all the while blathering about SSB being a "serial pedophile" for allegedly engaging in sexual activity with teenagers 16+ years of age and OLDER. And now the truth comes out that Barry Pittard (old enough to be the Great Grandfather to his mate) engaged in sexual activity with an underage teenager, impregnated her, fathered offspring and tried to keep it a secret!
This is the man who is making the allegations against Sathya Sai Baba. Therefore, Pittard's actions are entirely
relevant to this debate. Babble on that Tony like the trained parrot that you are.
Should there remain the slightest doubt of the baseness of Gerald Moreno's deceptions and agenda, see the following pages: About Gerald 'Joe' Moreno -- Moreno's deceptions -- Moreno unwillingly retracts his vile false allegation
The poster under the pseudonym "conscientiousobjector2000" is Lisa de Witt, of Tucson, Arizona, her name having eventually been discovered despite her continued attempts to conceal it. Subsequently she has admitted her name in numerous postings on Yahoo groups against many of the critics of Sathya Sai Baba. She here concocts unfounded allegations of criminal activities, usual, trying to smear the entire widespread community of critics of Sai Baba by association with the offence of one unnamed persons and one independent critic of Sai Baba. No criminals can be shown to ever have been connected with or supported by any members of the JuST group or with the many other names given at the head of this article. The level of her mentality and fanatical defamatory agenda shows most clearly in the texts highlighted here in red, just a few of many hundreds of her similar vile libels:-
Message 47483 From: "conscientiousobjector2000" <conscientiousobjector2000@...>
Date: Sat Feb 4, 2006 5:20 am
Subject: Re: A Grace Disgraced: The Rise & Fall Of Barry Pittard
The law stipulates that a 15 year old does not have the mental or emotional maturity to consent to a sexually intimate
relationship. This issue brings up several questions. Was Barry ever prosecuted for this sex offense? One also wonders if
Barry Pittard continues to initiate relationships with underage girls.Another anti-Sai who should be investigated.
Message 47488 From: "conscientiousobjector2000" <conscientiousobjector2000@...>
Date: Sun Feb 5, 2006 3:44 am
Subject: [Sathya Sai Baba] Re: A Grace Disgraced: The Rise & Fall Of Barry Pittard
> Another point is that sexual perverts like O'Clery continually prove every time they open their mouths that they have
> absolutely no interest in really protecting children from child abuse. Why? Because they defend those like Dadlani and
> Pittard who are proven irrefutably to be perverts who may be endangering children and they could care less!
> Yet dumbo O'Clery just can't fathom the suspicious shadow this casts on him and his cadre of fools, so many who have
> criminal backgrounds!
> Like I said, O'Clery et al's weirdness is just the tip of the iceberg.
Of course, the documentation was later refuted and this had to be admitted as true by Gerald Moreno. But not by de Witt!!
Message 47499 From: "conscientiousobjector2000" <conscientiousobjector2000@...>
Date: Sun Feb 5, 2006 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: Tony O'Clery: Defending Pedophilia: A Fraud out of his own mouth.
> No matter what is said about Barry he taught in PN and was in the inner crowd there. It doesn't effect the murders and
pedophilia committed by sb.............Tony.
> I'm not afraid what lunatics write or publish about me, do your worst go for it, I challenge you bunch of feckwits. It
doesn't change the prince of evil sb...Tony.
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> A SERIOUS crime WAS committed dumbo. The documentation is IRREFUTABLE and you the idiot are STILL defending it (while
> pretending not to--what a mental case) which speaks volumes as to your motives. In fact, you are starting to sound even
> more like a pedophile which really doesn't surprise me with what I know about you. So Tony the pervert thinks that points
> out when someone irrrefutably documented crimes they are paranoid? Remember, this is the pervert who makes up stories about
> brothels and admits to lying for the sheer entertainment aspect! What a pathetic weirdo.
from Message 47501 From: "conscientiousobjector2000" <conscientiousobjector2000@...>
Date: Sun Feb 5, 2006 1:38 am
Subject: Re: A Grace Disgraced: The Rise & Fall Of Barry Pittard--- In sathyasaibaba2@yahoogroups.com, "conscientiousobjector2000"
Leave it to the biggest fraud of all, Tony O'Clery, to continually try to distract from the fact that so many in his group of thugs are perverts, criminals and frauds (out of their OWN mouths).Once again, Tony OClery, the fascist has to be reminded that Sai Baba is the holy man and Tony O'Clery is the, liar, pervert and fraud.
The facts don't lie. Only Tony and his cadre of fools who will be thrown in jail in no time if they try their drivel in court. That's why you'll never see the cowards there. They are content to play their childish and idiotic mind games online where they can live out their kinky fantasies until they die.
Message 47528 From: "conscientiousobjector2000" <conscientiousobjector2000@...>
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 7:26 pm
Subject: [Sathya Sai Baba] Re: Canadian FAQ: Age of Consent to Sexual Activity> > > Barry Pittard's behavior is certainly exploitive for TWO reasons. He did NOT EVER marry his 15 year old victim and
> > > he did not even attempt to protect her from becoming pregnant. The 36 year age difference is also an indicator there
> > > is certainly something wrong here. This behavior is reprehensible for an older man, especially for a moralistic,
> > > condescending hypocrite such as Barry Pittard.
> > --- saiexposed420 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > Lisa De Witt was sexually molested at age 13 by a care worker (apparently a fully-grown adult) in her care home.
> > As for age differences, her FIRST marriage was to a man FIFTEEN years older than her, although she apparently initiated
> > that marriage at age 20.
> >
> > Upon the breakup of her FIRST marriages, she appears to have had several boyfriends - including black men, despite
> > her known tendency for racism. Consequently, Lisa De Witt is not in a position to be a moralistic condescending
> > hypocrite against stalwart Expose activists like Barry Pittard.
> > As for Gerald Moreno, he appears to be asexual:
> > "The Ocean makes me cry. I am basically ambi-troverted, with an inclination towards being introverted. I am thankful
> > that I am very comfortable in silence and in being alone. I consider this a true blessing. While many people often feel
> > the 'need' for a companion, I don't. I am content. Yes, seriously." - http://www.geocities.com/www0db0www/AboutMe.html
> >
> > Yep, SERIOUSLY. ;-)
> --- In sathyasaibaba2@yahoogroups.com, simon brace <sai2uk@...> wrote:
> S: How low can you go, Sanjay? Aside from the fact, that your words are filled with ignorance, and are totally unrelated
> to anything that you have attempted to tie them with. This just shows you up for what you are, and what your 'mission' is
> all about. I could, and quite easily, show up your words for the pure senseless tosh, that they are; but I don't think
> there is a need to do that.. I'm sure people here, are not as stupid as you are.
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--- In sathyasaibaba2@yahoogroups.com, conscientiousobjector2000@ wrote:
More lies from sexual pervert Sanjay who has no idea what he is talking about. So pervert Sanjay admits he thinks a child
sexual abuser like Pittard is a "stalwart individual."
What'd I tell you folks? According to O'Clery and Dadlani et al it is perfectly ok to be a sexual abuser as long as you
are an anti-Sai. According to anti-Sais, you are above the law if you are one of them. Now you know why I call them fascists.
From: conscientiousobjector2000@...
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 4:56 am
Subject: Barry Pittard should investigate and turn himself in
projecting their faults!
********************"A decade ago, I have spent three years writing a book on my experiences related to ssb, and a great deal of segmented
time revising it. It seemed to be finished, until immensely sad revelations intervened and I began my investigations.
The book was almost published by an Australian publisher who got cash-strapped (or so I hear! Yes, hearsay.)
Recorded in it are wonderful first-hand experiences of leelas, miracles and so on - yet:in that other terrible
September came the Nexus articles. Ring of truth there, too!
I shall never resile on what has been so wonderful. Yet it is confronted by the direct confrontation of what is so terrible.
Close, relentless personal investigation, including witness contact with an array (from different parts of the world)
of those who say they were molested has been at times truly gutwrenching. Even if it were proved that all the stories were
misguided, there have been the immeasurable joys, too, that come from following one's heart. Joy in sorrow. Sorrow in joy.
Just as I accepted the beautiful revelations, I now accept the terrible ones. I have given up the attempt to create a
covering theory, and resort to a fundamental: I am a citizen, and a human being, with a duty never to cover up what even
SEEMS to me to be an honest account of sexual molestation. If I cover up alleged misdeeds of the one I thought to
manifest Divinity, why should not my fellow citizens cover up serious allegations of misdemeanors by those they deem to
be Divine? ---Barry Pittard--unlawfully impregnated a 15 year old."
(NOTE the red text is de Witt's comment added to make it seem Pittard wrote it himself)
Message 47537 From: "conscientiousobjector2000" <conscientiousobjector2000@...>
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 7:37 pm
Subject: Anti-Sais working overtime to dig deeper holes for themselvesIt's hilarious watching perverts O'Clery and Dadlani now try to justify what they have been ranting against for years over
the internet. Can anybody take these bozos seriously? Meanwhile, Pittard is probably still out chasing underage girls to get
his thrills. I wonder how many other "love children" he has fathered.
BTW, dumbos OClery and Dadlani, according to the law Pittard committed STATUTORY RAPE. Pittard is a RAPIST> --- In sathyasaibaba2@yahoogroups.com, "Tony OClery" <aoclery@...> wrote:
> Namaste,
> Oh I get it, now that is settled all charges can be dropped against sb. Remember Barry was in the 'in-crowd' in puttaparthi.
> And there are many stories from students who were molested by their teachers and not in the pedophile brothel either.
> sb is claiming to be God, Barry isn't. And whilst I wouldn't want a 15 year old girl going out with a 52 year old, that is
> not my business. If the Aussies refuse to prosecute under this law unless there has been some harm,. what can anybody do?
> SB'S BIGGEST LIE IS NOT ONLY HIS MOLESTING BUT HIS LIE ABOUT BEING AN AVATAR AND DECEIVING PEOPLE...............Tony
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Pathetic Tony just can't conceal his hypocrisy and lies. Actually, Tony, we don't know that Pittard wasn't prosecuted.
For all we know he has a criminal record.
Blockhead Tony still can't get it through his braindead head that accusations are NOT proof and none of the accusers
have even tried to file charges which doesn't surprise me since it is so easy to prove their lies which have been
clearly documented. Tony has completely double standards when it comes to following the laws for anti-Sais.
Talk about dysfunctional and brainwashed. Tony is like a cult-like zombie.
Message 47549 From: "conscientiousobjector2000" <conscientiousobjector2000@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 3:08 am
Subject: Re: Lisa De Witt shoots herself in the.... um, foot.
> <conscientiousobjector2000@> wrote:
Yes folks, Dadlani is REALLY this dumb! The dumbo does not understand the BIG difference between DOCUMENTED proof (as in the
victim's written statement out of her OWN MOUTH that Pittard is the one who impreganated her at the age of 15 + a baby with
genetic material for further proof) and an accusation which has absolutely NO concrete proof to back it up. Dadlani please go
back to reading your comic books. You are a total embarrassment to the Hindu community. O'Clery and Dadlani are the two BIGGEST
dummies in the anti-Sai group. They are also two of the biggest sexual perverts. Just call them the Energizer Dummies.
From: "conscientiousobjector2000" <conscientiousobjector2000@...>
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 8:53 pm
Subject: How the law views Barry Pittard's behavior
committed RAPE. His victim should be in counselling so she can come to understand how this victimization has negatively affected
her life.
Message 47596 From: "conscientiousobjector2000" <conscientiousobjector2000@...>
Date: Wed Feb 8, 2006 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: Canada to increase age of consent--Tony enraged.Hard to believe that Tony is sixty two or sixty three years old and still this immature. Apparently Tony didn't read or understand the age difference statute I posted. Tony thinks 14 yo's should be able to consent to sex even though his buddy Barry Pittard could not even make a mature adult-like decision at the age of 51 and illegally impregnated a 15 yo girl which
is considered statutory rape according to Australian statutes. If an adult Barry's age cannot make the right decisions about sex what makes Tony think a 14 year old can? This is part of the problem with the anti-Sai crowd. they have absolutely NO common sense or morals # as you can CLEARLY see by Tony's continued childish behavior and lies. Ditto for Dadlani. In addition to that, the anti-Sai hypocrites want to be able to play as dirty as they can but expect everyone else to act like perfect angels. Pathetic hypocrisy at it's finest.
de Witt hypocritically upholds her defamation - Though her pro-Sai defender and supporter, Gerald Moreno had to retract his despicable accusations due to the severe legal jeopardy he had put himself, the cowardly Lisa de SWitt who carefully hides her location and cannot be traced continues to make the same accusations against Pittard. This is not untypical of her total Sai-determined pensée unique, whereby everything she claims is based on the narrowest of conceptions within the Sai movement, that Sathya Sai Baba is an impeccible Divinity who created the universe and so forth, ad. inf. Her method of proving this - as a self-confirmed follower of his teaching is - as seen - to rake amid dirt and throw her findings in the most insulting and crudely-worded language wherever she can gain entry on the Internet without rishing identification of her details for eventual legal process. see for example download from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/message/48019.
See also:
Serious Defamation Attempt by Gerald Moreno
Barry Pittard's unchallengeable public refutation here
See als http://lisadeewitt.blogspot.com/
with acknowledgements to Conny Larsson on whose website the above information was saved up